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Old 02-07-2003, 09:14 PM
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Toy Guns

Below is an entry that was initially written to the East Harlem.com guest book. I moved over here where it more appropriately belongs:

Hello...I couldn't find an e-mail on your web-site so I'm putting it here RE: Giving "FREE" realistic guns to East Harlem children at P.S. 72... 02/07/03 Dear Manhattan Libertarian Party,

The Manhattan Libertarian Party, in protest of a proposed law that would ban the sale of realistic looking toy guns in NYC, will give out toy guns tomorrow to children at P.S. 72 in East Harlem (Lexington Ave btwn 104 and 105th streets) , Thursday, February 6, around 3pm.

You, Manhattan Libertarian Party, must be living in a hole and completely ignorant. Children have been shot at and even killed by cops who thought that their realistic toy guns were real. If you watched the news you would know this. So why would you want to exacerbate this by handing out "FREE" realistic guns to East Harlem children at P.S. 72. Your premise: let’s give kids the enjoyment of toy guns before they become illegal. I am extremely opposed to the prospect of handing out toy guns to children. I am even more offended that the school that they have targeted for their “giveaway” is located in East Harlem and they are directing these “benevolent” guns at it’s predominantly minority population. Ignorance again appears in your, Manhattan Libertarian Party, thinking again.

They are only banning realistic looking guns. There are plenty of non-realistic looking guns such as ray guns & lasers that light up and make noise, etc. on the market which will not endanger their life while playing with them in public spaces, which is the point of banning the sale of realistic guns.

I fully support the ban of selling realistic looking guns period. Your complete ignorance, Manhattan Libertarian Party, shows in you passing them out to these children.

What I suggest to parents, and protestors against the passing out of these realistic looking guns to these children is to bring large garbage bags to dispose of them in and take them to the dump and dispose of them where they belong.

So Manhattan Libertarian Party, in light of your ignorance, here are some deadly/injurous incidences involving children playing with realistic toy guns taken from http://www.irol.com/avc/Fact_Sheet_About_Toy_Guns.html :

FACT SHEET ABOUT TOY GUNS On October 28, 2000, a Los Angeles Police Officer Responding to a loud Halloween costume party at a mansion in Beverly Hills, California, shot and killed 39-year old Anthony Dwain Lee ("Liar, Liar," "ER," and "NYPD Blue"). Lee was inside enjoying the party when he was killed. The officer that shot him thought he had a .357 magnum semi-automatic, when in fact it was a rubber toy gun.

On March 31, 2000, in Brooklyn, New York, two teenagers, 19-year old Tysheen Bourne and 17-year old Andre Fields, were fatally shot by two undercover Narcotics detectives while brandishing toy handguns.

On November 10, 1999, in Monterey Park, California, a 13-year old boy was shot twice on his upper left arm by an undercover cop, because the boy had a toy gun resembling a real gun.

On August 23, 1998, Michael Jones, a 16-year old boy, was shot 17 times and critically wounded by two police officers in Brooklyn, New York while riding a bicycle because he had a water gun that looked like a 9mm MP5 submachine gun.

On December 26, 1997, a father and his two sons, ages twelve and fourteen, were shot several times and injured by their neighbor, while the two brothers were playing in their backyard with the paint ball gun that the younger brother had received as a Christmas present the day before.

In December 1995, police almost shot at a 10-year-old boy hiding in the bushes pointing a gun at them. The gun turned out to be a toy.

On Memorial Day, May 29, 1995, in Carson Park, California, Freddy Palacio, a 12-year old, was shot twice by a Los Angeles County Sheriff's Deputy who mistook the $2 toy gun for a .22 caliber pistol.

In October of 1994, Nicholas Heyward Jr., a 13-year old boy, and straight-A student of Brooklyn, NY, was shot in the chest and killed by a police officer when he was playing with his toy gun. Jamiel Johnson, a 16-year old boy, was shot and wounded on the same day, and in the same city as above, for the same reason.

In 1987, Leonard Falcon, a 19-year old boy from Rancho Cucamonga, California, was shot and killed by a San Bernardino County Sheriff's Deputy, while playing with a laser tag gun, which resembled a real gun.

In 1987, a 12-year old boy was shot and killed by a police officer in San Francisco. His toy gun was mistaken for real gun.

In 1983, a 5-year old boy was shot and killed at his home, by an Orange County Police Officer because he was holding a toy gun. Studies show that most children younger than eight can not reliably distinguish a toy gun from a real gun. So Manhattan Libertarian Party, take the "toy gun test" @ http://www.irol.com/avc/whichoneisatoy.html

Sincerely, Janice Foote cc: International Health & Epidemiology Research Center's Anti-Violence Campaign @ iherc@hotmail.com plus all others check out...

http://www.council.nyc.ny.us/textfi...200298-2002.htm http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/news/WA..._gunsftots.html
Janice Foote <dj_dakini@yahoo.com>
Staten Island, NY USA - Friday, February 07, 2003 at 09:45:08 (EST)
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