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Jose 04-27-2001 11:59 PM

East Harlem Music
 
Salsa and Latin music are all the rage around the world, London, Japan and Europe loves the music. Some of the musicians are from East Harlem, Johnny Colon and Marc Anthony for example. We may even get a Salsa Museum on East 111th Street and Third Avenue. What is your favorite music, musician, band or song?

marthadel 05-21-2001 01:12 PM

East Harlem Music
 
Jose, do you remember back in the 70's there was a guy who had a band Tony Rojas and the TNT band. He made a few hits. He use to sing in the store front clubs in Harlem. What ever became of him? Is he still stinging or did he finally settle down?

Jose 05-21-2001 02:38 PM

I don't know
 
marthadel,

I am not familiar with Tony Rojas or his music.
I must confess, I grew up listening to Rock and Roll.
I now listen to Salsa, but still my main music is Rock/Pop.

Can you tell me more about Tony and what type of music he played?

marthadel 05-21-2001 03:10 PM

I also grew up on Rock N Roll. I was introduced to Tony Rojas by Vinny who owed the pet shop on 116th St. I believe it's now called Ideal Pet Shop. Vinny was killed in the 80's. He took me to my first latin club in Harlem. That is where I met Tony Rojas and TNT band.

I don't remember any of the music he played but I know he was well known in the neighborhood of 2nd Ave and 123 street.

If anyon remembers the TNT Band and knows what became of them let us know.


Jose 05-22-2001 06:24 AM

Vinny
 
marthadel,
Was Vinny an Italian man with a pony tail? If so, then I remember him. The pet shop was renamed and is now closed forever. We do have another pet store in El Barrio between 107-109. I forget which of the streets its on. It's a big name brand store.

Well, I just ask my daughter and she doesn't wish to talk this early in the morning. Why are some women so moody in the morning? She's all of 17 and just snapped at me. Geeez.

See ya

marthadel 05-23-2001 04:09 PM

Vinny's Pet Store
 
Hi Jose!

Vinny's pet store was on 116th street. Vinny was a big party person. He had a few kids from the neighborhood work in the pet shop. Before relocating to 116th St. the pet store was located around 123 St and 2nd Ave. I left Harlem in 1974 and that was the last I saw of Vinny. A few years later I was told someone shot him when he was entering the City Bank on the corner. I was in NYC last year I think the pet store is closed now. Vinny was very well known in the neighborhood.

Do you remember in those days a lot of the guys use to fly pigeons on the roof tops. I have a cousin in Brooklyn that has been breeding pigeons for many years. It's a good pass time I gues for those that don't want to get into the internet?


Jose 05-23-2001 06:01 PM

Yes,
When I was younger (years and years ago), I remember guys flying pigeons from their roofs. I believe the game was to steel pigeons from the other pigeon guys. The two steams of pigeons would fly together, birds got confused and went to the wrong home.

Before the internet, I guess that was the best a guy could do (besides being all over girls).

I also remember house weddings. One of my cousins got married in our apartment (60's) in Jefferson Houses. It was so typically 60s, cake with a big ring on it (hey maybe it was an engagement party) and lots of food and drink. We kids were bored, but the adults looked like they really had a good time.

marthadel 05-23-2001 06:10 PM

I Remember Those Days
 
I remember those house parties very well. I had my wedding in our apartment in the Wagner projects. It was in August with no AC You can imagine all those people in an apartment on a hot summer day. I remember also my friends in school talking about someone have a dance in their apartment. I think they called it going to a Set or something like that. I never went to any of those dances since I wasnt allowed to go out but, I remember everone talking about it the next day.

Those were the days before computers. How did we ever survive without computers?

Jose 05-24-2001 12:58 AM

I don't know how we survived before the advent of computers. I got into computing in 1984-85. I got online soon after that. Could you believe that I got online (Compuserve) at the amazing speed of 300 buad! Compuserve was a text based system then, so it went pretty fast. It cost $6.00 an hour. One month I received a $70.00 bill For a little over 11 hours of online time.
Those were the days! But I tell you, not many people were online then, and my family couldn't figure out what was so fasinating about computers. Let alone being online.

I get the last laugh, as I've seen each and every one of them getting online within the last 18 months. Guess who they ask when they need to troubleshoot their problems. Me. Ha, ha.


muaddib 06-17-2001 06:41 AM

Apartment Weddings? How retro! Hope the idea takes off. It is better than paying thousands for the rental of a large hall. How couples can spend so much in their very first expenditure if beyond me. I just hope any future wife of mine agrees. You never know the female sex. They love expensive fantasy weddings.

marthadel 06-20-2001 12:53 PM

House Party
 
I remember those house part's so ell. I hated them. Looking back to those years. Those were the stone age years. Today everything is so different and expensive. We now have Party stores to catere to all our party needs. And, the party's are no longer held in a small apartment. All the baby boomers got hipped and now rent a hall or hotel.

Remember the when a Puerto Rican in the neighborhood would have a party for one of their kids and the kids party winded up being more for the adults. The adults where the ones getting drunk from all the bear and rum they were serving. And the poor kids would only get a birthday cake. After the happy birthday singing was over they would put the kids to bed and continue partying like it was their birthday. You didn't see any clowns or games for the kids at the party only salsa music playing and the adults looking forward to meeting and dancing with the latinas at the party.

Crazy!!!!!!!!!!!

Diana 06-21-2001 05:53 PM

Tony Rojas and TNT
 
Hi Jose,

Long time no speak. Just a little infor on the TNT Band. Their most popular song was Boogaloo Blues. It went something like this...I remember the time when I felt the world was mine...(chorus - LSD gotta hold on me...)

Does anyone remember this song?

As I had said before Jose I slept, ate, and was totally immersed in music from Latin to Soul, and Doowop and some rock and roll.


By the way the pet store you refer to on 109ths street is Petland.


I welcome more discussion on old latin songs. Does anyone remember the Swing Sextette and Joey Pastrana?

Richie_Rumbero 06-21-2001 08:11 PM

Old Bands from El Barrio
 
Both the New Swing Sextet and Joey Pastrana are still alive and kicking. Pastrana lives in Queens and The New Swing Sextet still play on occassion, albeit with several new members from the original group.

If I'm not mistaken I believe "BOOGALOO BLUES" was recorded by Johnny Colón, who is also alive and kicking and contineus to run the Johnny Colón East Harlem Music School. A school which, might I add, spawned the talents of Tito Nieves and, East Harlem's own, Marc Anthony among others.

One of the last living legends STILL living in El Barrio, Joe Cuba will be performing with his sextet this Saturday, June 23, 2001.

From 12:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m., "The Puerto Rican Cultural Village" will present shows and workshops at the Riverside Church, 490 Riverside Drive (between 120th and 122nd Streets) in Manhattan. Featuring a clave percussion workshop lead by Jose Rivera (Bomba Y Plena Cafe); Bomba/Plena Dance Workshop with Los Amigos De La Plena lead by Jose Rivera; Applause Dance Group lead by Taina Traverso; The Myths and Mysteries of Taino Indians with Master storyteller Bobby Gonzalez; and The Joe Cuba Sextet.

For more information, visit www.theriversidechurchny.org

Richie

marthadel 06-27-2001 10:22 AM

TNT Band
 
Im glad to hear someone remembers the TNT Band, and Vinnie's Pet Shop from East Harlem. The petshop is Pet Land now. Vinnie was killed. I use to hang out with Vinny in the early 70's. I moved to Florida in 1976. He had gave alot of the neighborhood kids in school jobs during the summer. Was sad to hear he was killed.

As for the TNT Band. When I left for Florida I found out he settle down and wasn't singing with the group any more. I think he should have keep his career as a singer. Looks like he joined the one-time wonder club.

It's wonderfull to remember those days when we were growing up.

Charles 07-23-2001 09:26 PM

East Harlem Music/TNT Band
 
The TNT Band (Tito Ramos & Tony Rojas) were one of the "Boogaloo/Latin Soul"-era bands that recorded on Cotique Records from about 1968-1970.

Some of their biggest hits were: "Mr. Slick," "Borinquen Bella," Sabre Olvidar," and, perhaps their most popular, "The Meditation."

"The Meditation" could've been considered an earlier form of "sampling"--LOL!!!!! It borrowed, kinda liberally, from two of the biggest "Soul Music" hits of the day, Archie Bell & The Drells' "Tighten Up" and James Brown's "Cold Sweat." The latter had the "give the drummer some" solo lifted by the TNT Band's timbale player during the "Drum Call."

I think the young lady who believed that "Boogaloo Blues" was recorded by them may have gotten mixed up, as Tito Ramos (I believe) was the lead singer on that Johnny Colon track, as he also sang lead on "Judy, Part 2" from that same album ("Boogaloo Blues."

This was my favorite era of Salsa Music (1967-1975), and I'd be glad to talk to anyone about it on this board!!!!

Charles

Diana 07-24-2001 01:56 PM

Hi Charles,

Thanks for correcting my mistake. You are SO RIGHT about who sang Boogaloo Blues. TNT did Meditation. (God, I must be slipping - me a Barrio lady that all I did was listen to music...I'll just say that this little old brain has lost some cells.)

Anyhow, glad to hear that other folks like the same music I did and still do. ( I prefer it to today's music).

I remember when Willie Colon rehearsed at our CYO (in St. Cecilia's). The song he played was Jazzy. Remember that album? Do you remember Our Lady Queen of Angels dances? and the great bands that played there...Palmieri, Barreto, etc.
or the Jazzmobile?

And let's not forget the BLOCK PARTIES... I still think 111th St. between Mad. & Park had the best ones. (but, of course I would say that....that was my block.)

Does anyone remember the social groups that would always throw dances? I remember the Latin Ladies but the others I've forgotten (there goes those lost cells again.)

Looking forward to the discussion...I truly loved those times.

Diana 07-24-2001 02:33 PM

Marthadel,

How can you consider house parties part of the stone age years?
AAGH, I'm not that old!!!!! Actually, I prefer a good old house party to what people call dance clubs today. (people don't dance..too busy profiling). Most old timers that I know (myself included) are always about the dancing, the music, the fun and friends.

Jose 07-24-2001 09:35 PM

Boy I feel younger already. All us 70's kids had was disco!! But I must admit, you 'old timers'
had it good too, especially the music and friends part. (I was born in 55). Tell me more about what went on at these house parties. The ones my mother had were mostly held for weddings and engagement parties.

Charles 07-25-2001 12:29 AM

(Diana wrote: Anyhow, glad to hear that other folks like the same music I did and still do. [ I prefer it to today's music]. I remember when Willie Colon rehearsed at our CYO [in St. Cecilia's]. The song he played was Jazzy. Remember that album? Do you remember Our Lady Queen of Angels dances? and the great bands that played there...Palmieri, Barreto, etc. or the Jazzmobile?)


Hey, Diana!:

I, too, still play the Salsa of that day--A LOT!!!

The first album--of any genre (soul, pop, Latin, etc)--I ever purchased with my own money was Willie Colon's "El Malo," which led off with "Jazzy." I loved that album, and to this day I still play it on CD. I don't think the album/CD had a weak cut. Besides the aforementioned cut and the title tune, there was "Willie Baby," "Borinquen," "Willie Whopper," "Skinny Papa," "Chonqui," and "Quimbombo."

Now I have a little confession to make...at the time I began listening to Latin Music, I was 12! (1967--so yeah Jose, I'm the same age as you, bro--LOL!!!) Every night I used to listen to Dick "Ricardo" Sugar's show on WHBI-FM (105.9) and used to call in to make requests and dedications! So I used to be envious of people such as yourself who could go to the Bronx Music Palace, the La Calesa Club/"The Psycho Room," and the "3 & 1 Club." I was FAR too young to get into those places--LOL!!! I also used ot have an earphone to my transistor for Symphony Sid's show on WEVD-AM (1330) and WEVD-FM (97.9) (show was on simultaneously both stations)

So I had to get my Salsa where I could. The very first time I experienced it live was during the Summer of 1968, when Tony Lawrence and the City of New York (with help from actor Robert Hooks) put on the weekly "Harlem Cultural Festival" in Mt. Morris (now Marcus Garvey) Park. One week, the festival had Ray Barretto, Eddie Palmieri, and Tito Puente. I had to beg my older sister to take me (she was 18 at the time), 'cause moms wouldn't let me trek down there by myself.

One day soon I’ll post details about that show (I remember it vividly!)

Charles

Richie_Rumbero 07-25-2001 07:10 AM

Speaking of Johnny...
 
WASHINGTON SQUARE MUSIC FESTIVAL - SALSA CONCERT -Free, outdoors, in Washington Square Park, Greenwich Village, Manhattan. July 31st at 8:00PM.

Johnny Colon & His Orchestra. The dancing surface is cement, and there are benches and grass around the park. The concert is held at the southeast quadrant of the park, near Washington Square South (West 4th Street) and LaGuardia Place, just south of the fountain, near the statue of Garibaldi. Seating is on a first-come first-serve basis. In case of rain, the concert will be held in New York University's Frederick Loewe Theater, 35 West 4th Street (probably with no place for dancing). For more information, call 212-625-7123

Jibaro 07-26-2001 07:02 PM

Re: Tony Rojas and TNT
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Diana Lopez
Hi Jose,

Long time no speak. Just a little infor on the TNT Band. Their most popular song was Boogaloo Blues. It went something like this...I remember the time when I felt the world was mine...(chorus - LSD gotta hold on me...)

Does anyone remember this song?

As I had said before Jose I slept, ate, and was totally immersed in music from Latin to Soul, and Doowop and some rock and roll.


By the way the pet store you refer to on 109ths street is Petland.


I welcome more discussion on old latin songs. Does anyone remember the Swing Sextette and Joey Pastrana?


I do remeber The TNT Band. I do not, however, remeber their hits even when looking at the Titles " Borinqen Bella,"
" Mi Mulatta," and "Descarga TNT." I do recall and can veriy this by ownership that Johnny Colon recorded Boogaloo Blues.

Jibaro 08-02-2001 11:48 AM

Re: I Remember Those Days
 
Quote:
Originally posted by marthadel
I remember those house parties very well. I had my wedding in our apartment in the Wagner projects. It was in August with no AC You can imagine all those people in an apartment on a hot summer day. I remember also my friends in school talking about someone have a dance in their apartment. I think they called it going to a Set or something like that. I never went to any of those dances since I wasnt allowed to go out but, I remember everone talking about it the next day.

Those were the days before computers. How did we ever survive without computers?
Not sure why the house paries were called "Sets," but it may have been to distinguish them from a "House party" that were more family oriented - tios, tias, cousins, abuela, mom and pop. Sets were also "Thrown" (yet another term) in apartments that house parties were given with the distiction or a virtual absence of aforementioned family members.

If someone helps me, I still have some invitations to sets and Social Club "Dances" that I can share by uploading some of them to this board.

Jibaro 08-02-2001 11:51 AM

Re: I Remember Those Days
 
Quote:
Originally posted by marthadel
I remember those house parties very well. I had my wedding in our apartment in the Wagner projects. It was in August with no AC You can imagine all those people in an apartment on a hot summer day. I remember also my friends in school talking about someone have a dance in their apartment. I think they called it going to a Set or something like that. I never went to any of those dances since I wasnt allowed to go out but, I remember everone talking about it the next day.

Those were the days before computers. How did we ever survive without computers?
Not sure why the house paries were called "Sets," but it may have been to distinguish them from a "House party" that were more family oriented - tios, tias, cousins, abuela, mom and pop, etc. Sets were also "Thrown" (yet another term) in apartments that house parties were given with the distinction or a virtual absence of aforementioned family members.

If someone helps me, I still have some invitations to sets and Social Club "Dances" that I can share by uploading some of them to this board.

Jibaro 08-02-2001 11:55 AM

Re: I Remember Those Days
 
Quote:
Originally posted by marthadel
I remember those house parties very well. I had my wedding in our apartment in the Wagner projects. It was in August with no AC You can imagine all those people in an apartment on a hot summer day. I remember also my friends in school talking about someone have a dance in their apartment. I think they called it going to a Set or something like that. I never went to any of those dances since I wasnt allowed to go out but, I remember everone talking about it the next day.

Those were the days before computers. How did we ever survive without computers?
Not sure why the house paries were called "Sets," but it may have been to distinguish them from a "House party" that were more family oriented - tios, tias, cousins, abuela, mom and pop, etc. Sets were also "Thrown" (yet another term) in apartments that house parties were given with the distinction, or a virtual absence of aforementioned family members.

If someone helps me, I still have some invitations to sets and Social Club "Dances" that I can share by uploading some of them to this board.

Richie_Rumbero 08-02-2001 07:58 PM

Hey Jibaro,

If Jose can turn on the HTML Code on this message board you can share with us all the photos by using this HTML Code...

<br><span class="sig"></span><img src="[web address where photo is scanned]"><br>

or simply go to one of the many web-photo albums on the internet, upload your pics there and give us the link to the address where we could see them.....

Thanks.

Richie

Jibaro 08-02-2001 11:16 PM

Richie, I was hoping and continue to do so and wishing, not to mention encoraging Jose to make html codes available HERE, so as to not to go elsewhere for what can be handled here - Latino style. The EHO board has a good premise and great potential, so I remain optimistic that Jose will continue improving this board.

P. S.

Jose, let me know if there is ANYTHING I can do to help you out.

Jose 08-03-2001 08:52 AM

Richie, Jibaro,
I am not sure what it is you wish to do. My guess is that you wish pictures to show up as a message thread opens up.
I will try it now:
http://www.east-harlem.com/images/gwf_trex.jpg

It didn't work. I will work on this as I believe it should allow you to show the message. I may be doing something wrong. But as above, you can put the url and it will create a link to the picture. Is that what you wish to do?

Diana 08-03-2001 09:26 AM

HOUSE PARTIES
 
Hey Jose,

I'm only 2 yrs. older than you...but you write that all we had was 70"s disco...Jose, where have you been, my friend?

We had more than that...60's motown and latin music, as well as rock, and of course, the 70's disco and for those that like Doo Wop (like I do, we also had those classics).

House parties were exactly that PARTIES...family and friends. Now SETS were something else. I wasn't old enough to go to one of these, however, I did get a taste of it. My teenage babysitter threw one and she invited me - just to show off the latest dances she had taught me...and then I was banished from the party. I did notice that there were red and green lights. stuff to snack on and great music. She did tell me what went on at these SETS. Lot's of dancing especially SLOW dancing (like the grind, the elevator, etc.) these dances usually took place up against some wall. And of course there was ALWAYS a chaperone.

I never made it to one of these SETS just like I never made it to the Palladium....but they sure sounded like great times...but, I have the music.

Jose 08-03-2001 09:41 AM

Diana,
I have to confess, I didn't go out too much in the 70s. I wasn't a party kid. Didn't see the point in dancing, like what does it accomplish? Now I dance to please my wife, but still don't get why people like it. I don't get anything out of it. Would much rather play the drums, hey, but that's just me, a little nerdy.

But you are right about Motown, etc. My sisters listened to Motown Music Exclusively and my parents to Latin. I stuck to Rock - The Beatles, Rolling Stones, etc. I never saw Tito Puente play regular Drums like Ringo, so I didn't go there. Again, its just me. I do enjoy Salsa now, especially the horn sections.

I just hope Salseros use regular drums in the future.

Diana 08-08-2001 09:03 PM

MUSIC AND DANCING
 
Jose,

I just had to answer this one. You say you don't see the point to dancing. What do you get out of playing drums? It's probably the same "thing" dancers get out of dancing. It's good for the soul, for the spirit, makes one happy.

Tito Puente did not play drums but he played timbales, vibes, piano, etc.

Latin music (or Salsa) has instruments that are essential to its groove. Percussion instruments; congas, bongo, campana, timbales, give it the rhythm. Makes it swing. It's not an easy feat for these percussionists to keep time and the flow not only for the rest of the musicians but for the dancers also.

Drums have been infused into Latin but there is usually a conga around somewhere. Cuban music has done it. Irakere (more jazzy) Los Van Van but you always have the percussion.

In my opinion a guaguanco, chacha or rumba to trap drums...would NEVER sound the same or give it the same groove, flow or feel.

I liked the Beatles, but Jose...Ringo Starr?

so, I ask you again...What do YOU get out of playing drums????


Interested in seeing your reply.

Diana 08-08-2001 09:31 PM

MUSIC
 
Charles,

Finally had a chance to reply. You brought back many memories. I too listened to Dick Ricardo Sugar, Symphony Sid and later Joe Gaines. I also had a small transitor radio that was practically attached to my ear.

Funny, I knew all the names of the clubs and who was playing where, but couldn't go to many of them. I did go to Hipocampo, Corso, Casa Blanca, the Red Parrot and a couple of others that I've forgotten. With my parents I went to Brodway Casino, Riverside Plaza, Caborojeno, Happy Hills Casino. That was when St. Cecilia's would throw their dances at these clubs. Boy, were they great. The Brothers and priests would take off their white collars and let loose.

In the late 70's early 80's I frequented Ochentas, Christopher's (on 106th St. now called the Old Timers Lounge) My Desire (on 124th and 3rd).

Anyway, Charles...glad to hear that you like the same music. I'm constantly replacing my albums with CD's...cause I loved that music then and still do now.

By the way, this is for all members....on Sat. August 11th there's an outdoor concert at Columbia University at the Quad featuring the music of the Palladium Big Three (Puente, Machito, Rodriguez). It's from 4pm to 9 pm and its FREE.

Also, on Aug. 25th Lincoln Center Outdoors is having a day of wonderful music and at 8pm there will be a tribute to Tito Puent.

For me the above two are a MUST!!!!!

Hasta Luego.

Charles 08-10-2001 06:27 PM

Seeing "La Musica" live for the first time!
 
Hey, Diana!!!!!:

I can’t BELIEVE how good we had it "back in da day" musically! It was at the Harlem Cultural Festival during the Summer of 1968 I first got to see Latin Music—Salsa—played live!

A local actor and Harlem entertainer, Tony Lawrence (along with various NYC jocks like Eddie O’Jay and Symphony Sid), would MC each show. The live outdoor concert would take place on Sundays between 1 and 5 PM; and then an edited one-hour tape of the show would be shown on Channel 5 (then WNEW-TV) the following Saturday night.

As I posted on another internet music group I’m a part of, I convinced my older sister to take me to see the Latin Music installment one Sunday. Man, we had a great time—well, at least I did anyway. My sister, who was five years older than me, was really astonished at how much, at age 13, I loved Latin Music and how I knew EVERY tune that was played. (She was more Beatles, Lovin’ Spoonful, and Rascals; I was "very WWRL and Latin Music.")

The lineup at the Festival that Sunday was (in order of appearance) Ray Barretto, Eddie Palmieri, and "El Rey," Tito Puente. Each act played a total of about 30-40 minutes, and all three "orquestas" tore it up!!!! Barretto played (from the "Hard Hands" album) "Abidjan," "Mirame De Frente" (which he opened with), "Hard Hands," and going back one album to "Acid," he played the title tune and "Soul Drummers." In Ray’s band on timbales was the great Orestes Vilato, who was (and still is) an exciting showman. His solo on "Abidjan" had EVERYBODY going NUTS!!!!!

Next up was Eddie Palmieri, with Ismael Quintana on lead vocals. Now, "mental fuzziness" with the passage of time does not allow me to recall everything Eddie played, but I remember him opening with "Busco Lo Tuyo" (featuring blistering solos by Eddie on piano and the late, great Barry Rogers on trombone) from his then-current album, "Champagne." Eddie and the band also played "The African Twist," Ay Que Rico," "Palo De Mango," and "Cinturita" (all from "Champagne"), and "Tirandote Flores" (from "Echando Palante/Straight Ahead").

After the stage was cleared, an older Caucasian man with a sailor’s hat came to the mike. I had no idea who it was—until I heard the voice. It was the voice of the cat who would be in my earplug late at night on weeknights—long after my dad had issued his nightly "Go To Bed" edict at eleven o’clock—the late, great Sidney Torin—"Symphony Sid"! He introduces "El Rey," Tito Puente, and at this point I’m thinking—at age 13—it doesn’t get any better than this—LOL!!!!!

Puente starts kickin’ right away with his great "Mambo a la Tito." Then he goes through a slew of numbers from his then-current album, "The King Tito Puente:" "Fiesta Con Puente," "Guaguanco Margarito," "T.P.’s Shing-A-Ling," and "It Was Love." He reaches back to the earlier "20th Anniversary" album (the same album that "Mambo…" was on) for his boogaloo crowd-pleaser, "Fat Mama." Santos Colon handled lead vocals for most of the numbers.

It was because of that day, after seeing Vilato and Puente, that I started playing the timbales (One of my greatest regrets, though, is that I never got the chance to play that instrument in a Salsa band context.)

Charles

Diana 08-13-2001 11:37 AM

MUSIC
 
Charles,

Thanks so much for sharing your journey into our wonderful music. It brought back many memories. What a line-up? I too was a WWRL listener and also listened to WMCA (good guys).

You can't beat the music of that time (AND I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYs!!!) I saw many a concert in Central Park also....Palmieri, Ismael Rivera. CLASSIC !!!!

Do you remember Joe Quijano,? He played many a block party in El Barrio.

God, I long for those days...the music, the concerts...Okay, I'm getting sentimental...and feeling OLD.


Until next time...

Take Care and keep on keeping on!!! QUE VIVA LA MUSICA.

Charles 08-13-2001 09:44 PM

Diana--people will start talking about "us"!!!--LOL!!!!
 
(You wrote: Thanks so much for sharing your journey into our wonderful music. It brought back many memories. What a line-up? I too was a WWRL listener and also listened to WMCA [good guys].)

Diana!:

You and I must've lived in "parallel universes"--LOL!!! You mentioned another great memory of the 60s, WMCA!!!!

The "Good Guys" (bet you don't rmember!): Joe O'Brien, "Dandy" Dan Daniel, Jack Spector, B. Mitchell Reid, Harry Harrison, Gary Stevens, Ed Baer, Dean Anthony, and a few others!

(You wrote: You can't beat the music of that time [AND I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYs!!!] I saw many a concert in Central Park also....Palmieri, Ismael Rivera. CLASSIC !!!!)

Diana--no question about it!!! Over those years, I saw some great Central Park concerts: Ray Barretto, Willie Bobo, Mongo Santamaria; Curtis Mayfield, Nancy Wilson, and Mandrill; Barretto (again) and Willie Colon--so many shows that I can't fully remember!

(You wrote: Do you remember Joe Quijano,? He played many a block party in El Barrio.)

I remember the name but precious little about his music. Didn't he have a hit around '67-'68 called "Nosotros?" If I remember correctly, Quijano played bongos. Help me out with some other Quijano titles!!!

(You wrote: God, I long for those days...the music, the concerts...Okay, I'm getting sentimental...and feeling OLD. Until next time...Take Care and keep on keeping on!!! QUE VIVA LA MUSICA.)

You're not the only one longing for those days! For instance, it was the era when soneros SANG!!! I REALLY can't stand the emphasis in today's Salsa on the lead singer. Band doesn't get enough of a chance to "get off!" Back in our day, you mentioned the band and the singer in the same breath--one "needed" the other. For instance--

Ray Barretto/Adalberto Santiago
Ricardo Ray/Bobby Cruz
Orquesta (Larry) Harlow/Ismael Miranda
Rafael Cortijo/Ismael Rivera
Eddie Palmieri/Ismael Quintana
Johnny Pacheco/Pete "El Conde" Rodriguez (y Celia, too!)
Tito Puente/Santos Colon (and don't forget La Lupe!)
Joe Cuba/Jimmy Sabater (also Willie Torres, Cheo)
and--my favorite pairing of 60s/early 70s Salsa--

WILLIE COLON/HECTOR LAVOE!!!!!!

Now, THAT was music!!!!

Charles

Diana 08-14-2001 01:02 PM

MUSIC
 
What could people possibly say?? We love OUR MUSIC.


The "Good Guys" (bet you don't rmember!): Joe O'Brien, "Dandy" Dan Daniel, Jack Spector, B. Mitchell Reid, Harry Harrison, Gary Stevens, Ed Baer, Dean Anthony, and a few others!

You bet I remember !!!! Do you remember Murray the K and Jocko? Going back a little here.

You listed all my favorite bands with their singers. Those were the days when you recognized a band by its style and singer. Today I can't tell whose who. I call it formula music.


Diana

Charles 08-19-2001 08:46 AM

Joe Cuba is "Harlem Week" finale--tonight!
 
Hey, here's a "heads up":

I just heard from a friend who is a sound engineer working the Harlem Week Festival on 135th St in (where else?) Harlem.

According to his information, Joe Cuba will be closing out the Festival tonight at the St. Nicholas Ave. end beginning at 7:30!!! Playing with Joe will be Yomo Toro and "Chocolate" (Alfredo Amanteros). Joe's due to play an hour, and from what I heard, he was cookin' last night too!!! He's still got it!!!!!

Now, I don't know if y'all "venture out of East Harlem and come 'uptown' to MY old neighborhood" (smile--I used to live on 135th), but it promises to be good!

Charles

GaryChandler 08-23-2001 10:26 AM

Hi all,

I'm a reporter from Columbia News Service (at Columbia University) and am doing stories in/about East Harlem. The forum has been a nice way for me to hear about some of the goings-on.

I'd love to learn more about TNT and Johnny Colon and others that have been mentioned here--sounds like a great story, and maybe one people outside of the community haven't heard much about, especially the younger folks. Johnny Colon is still around, right? Are any other musicians from before? What happened to them? Does East Harlem have a tradition of neighborhood bands? Is the idea of neighborhood bands still strong?

I'm a radio reporter, so anything that involves music makes my job easier! Thanks.

(P.S. Feel free to let me know about other things going on too--I'm open to just about everything.)

marthadel 11-17-2002 03:35 PM

LOOKING BACK
 
Glad to come back to this web site. Been gone away. I was reading the music replys on Tony Rojas and the TNT Band. I was glad to see someone did remember him. When I left NYC to live in Florida about 1974, I came back to East Harlem and saw Tony. He had finally settled down and if I remember well was living in East Harlem about 110th Street. I date Tony for about a year when he was playing the neighborhood clubs. Tony loved music and was talented. Does anyone know if he is playing again or really did settle down with a family?

Martha Del Valle
mvalle621@aol.com

marthadel 11-17-2002 03:37 PM

LOOKING BACK
 
Glad to come back to this web site. Been gone awhile. I was reading the music replys on Tony Rojas and the TNT Band. I was glad to see someone did remember him. When I left NYC to live in Florida about 1974, I came back to East Harlem and saw Tony. He had finally settled down and if I remember well was living in East Harlem about 110th Street. I date Tony for about a year when he was playing the neighborhood clubs. Tony loved music and was talented. Does anyone know if he is playing again or really did settle down with a family?

Martha Del Valle
mvalle621@aol.com

Ana 12-03-2002 01:03 PM

Lubona Corporation's International Salsa Sight
 
I just became a member to this site and ran across Richie Rumbero's gracious information/posting of the June 2001 Puerto Rican Village event at Riverside Church. Thank you, Richie! I am not sure if Richie knew this, but that event was put together (solely) by Mr. Jose Obando and Ms. Ana Flores, formerly of the Salsa Museum. It was successful, even through the inclement weather that day. We went on to pursue our goals, and now Mr. Jose Obando is the Salsa Consultant for the Metropolitan Museum's Instrumental Department. Presently, we are working on a CUATRO project, called "Cuatrisimo" for June 1, 2002, featuring six of the best Cuatro players. Of course, Yomo Toro accepted our request to perform for the Museum. Please visit our site at: www.intlsalsamuseum.homestead.com for information on Lubona Corporation/International Salsa Sight.


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