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Diana 08-08-2001 09:31 PM

MUSIC
 
Charles,

Finally had a chance to reply. You brought back many memories. I too listened to Dick Ricardo Sugar, Symphony Sid and later Joe Gaines. I also had a small transitor radio that was practically attached to my ear.

Funny, I knew all the names of the clubs and who was playing where, but couldn't go to many of them. I did go to Hipocampo, Corso, Casa Blanca, the Red Parrot and a couple of others that I've forgotten. With my parents I went to Brodway Casino, Riverside Plaza, Caborojeno, Happy Hills Casino. That was when St. Cecilia's would throw their dances at these clubs. Boy, were they great. The Brothers and priests would take off their white collars and let loose.

In the late 70's early 80's I frequented Ochentas, Christopher's (on 106th St. now called the Old Timers Lounge) My Desire (on 124th and 3rd).

Anyway, Charles...glad to hear that you like the same music. I'm constantly replacing my albums with CD's...cause I loved that music then and still do now.

By the way, this is for all members....on Sat. August 11th there's an outdoor concert at Columbia University at the Quad featuring the music of the Palladium Big Three (Puente, Machito, Rodriguez). It's from 4pm to 9 pm and its FREE.

Also, on Aug. 25th Lincoln Center Outdoors is having a day of wonderful music and at 8pm there will be a tribute to Tito Puent.

For me the above two are a MUST!!!!!

Hasta Luego.

Charles 08-10-2001 06:27 PM

Seeing "La Musica" live for the first time!
 
Hey, Diana!!!!!:

I can’t BELIEVE how good we had it "back in da day" musically! It was at the Harlem Cultural Festival during the Summer of 1968 I first got to see Latin Music—Salsa—played live!

A local actor and Harlem entertainer, Tony Lawrence (along with various NYC jocks like Eddie O’Jay and Symphony Sid), would MC each show. The live outdoor concert would take place on Sundays between 1 and 5 PM; and then an edited one-hour tape of the show would be shown on Channel 5 (then WNEW-TV) the following Saturday night.

As I posted on another internet music group I’m a part of, I convinced my older sister to take me to see the Latin Music installment one Sunday. Man, we had a great time—well, at least I did anyway. My sister, who was five years older than me, was really astonished at how much, at age 13, I loved Latin Music and how I knew EVERY tune that was played. (She was more Beatles, Lovin’ Spoonful, and Rascals; I was "very WWRL and Latin Music.")

The lineup at the Festival that Sunday was (in order of appearance) Ray Barretto, Eddie Palmieri, and "El Rey," Tito Puente. Each act played a total of about 30-40 minutes, and all three "orquestas" tore it up!!!! Barretto played (from the "Hard Hands" album) "Abidjan," "Mirame De Frente" (which he opened with), "Hard Hands," and going back one album to "Acid," he played the title tune and "Soul Drummers." In Ray’s band on timbales was the great Orestes Vilato, who was (and still is) an exciting showman. His solo on "Abidjan" had EVERYBODY going NUTS!!!!!

Next up was Eddie Palmieri, with Ismael Quintana on lead vocals. Now, "mental fuzziness" with the passage of time does not allow me to recall everything Eddie played, but I remember him opening with "Busco Lo Tuyo" (featuring blistering solos by Eddie on piano and the late, great Barry Rogers on trombone) from his then-current album, "Champagne." Eddie and the band also played "The African Twist," Ay Que Rico," "Palo De Mango," and "Cinturita" (all from "Champagne"), and "Tirandote Flores" (from "Echando Palante/Straight Ahead").

After the stage was cleared, an older Caucasian man with a sailor’s hat came to the mike. I had no idea who it was—until I heard the voice. It was the voice of the cat who would be in my earplug late at night on weeknights—long after my dad had issued his nightly "Go To Bed" edict at eleven o’clock—the late, great Sidney Torin—"Symphony Sid"! He introduces "El Rey," Tito Puente, and at this point I’m thinking—at age 13—it doesn’t get any better than this—LOL!!!!!

Puente starts kickin’ right away with his great "Mambo a la Tito." Then he goes through a slew of numbers from his then-current album, "The King Tito Puente:" "Fiesta Con Puente," "Guaguanco Margarito," "T.P.’s Shing-A-Ling," and "It Was Love." He reaches back to the earlier "20th Anniversary" album (the same album that "Mambo…" was on) for his boogaloo crowd-pleaser, "Fat Mama." Santos Colon handled lead vocals for most of the numbers.

It was because of that day, after seeing Vilato and Puente, that I started playing the timbales (One of my greatest regrets, though, is that I never got the chance to play that instrument in a Salsa band context.)

Charles

Diana 08-13-2001 11:37 AM

MUSIC
 
Charles,

Thanks so much for sharing your journey into our wonderful music. It brought back many memories. What a line-up? I too was a WWRL listener and also listened to WMCA (good guys).

You can't beat the music of that time (AND I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYs!!!) I saw many a concert in Central Park also....Palmieri, Ismael Rivera. CLASSIC !!!!

Do you remember Joe Quijano,? He played many a block party in El Barrio.

God, I long for those days...the music, the concerts...Okay, I'm getting sentimental...and feeling OLD.


Until next time...

Take Care and keep on keeping on!!! QUE VIVA LA MUSICA.

Charles 08-13-2001 09:44 PM

Diana--people will start talking about "us"!!!--LOL!!!!
 
(You wrote: Thanks so much for sharing your journey into our wonderful music. It brought back many memories. What a line-up? I too was a WWRL listener and also listened to WMCA [good guys].)

Diana!:

You and I must've lived in "parallel universes"--LOL!!! You mentioned another great memory of the 60s, WMCA!!!!

The "Good Guys" (bet you don't rmember!): Joe O'Brien, "Dandy" Dan Daniel, Jack Spector, B. Mitchell Reid, Harry Harrison, Gary Stevens, Ed Baer, Dean Anthony, and a few others!

(You wrote: You can't beat the music of that time [AND I DON'T CARE WHAT ANYONE SAYs!!!] I saw many a concert in Central Park also....Palmieri, Ismael Rivera. CLASSIC !!!!)

Diana--no question about it!!! Over those years, I saw some great Central Park concerts: Ray Barretto, Willie Bobo, Mongo Santamaria; Curtis Mayfield, Nancy Wilson, and Mandrill; Barretto (again) and Willie Colon--so many shows that I can't fully remember!

(You wrote: Do you remember Joe Quijano,? He played many a block party in El Barrio.)

I remember the name but precious little about his music. Didn't he have a hit around '67-'68 called "Nosotros?" If I remember correctly, Quijano played bongos. Help me out with some other Quijano titles!!!

(You wrote: God, I long for those days...the music, the concerts...Okay, I'm getting sentimental...and feeling OLD. Until next time...Take Care and keep on keeping on!!! QUE VIVA LA MUSICA.)

You're not the only one longing for those days! For instance, it was the era when soneros SANG!!! I REALLY can't stand the emphasis in today's Salsa on the lead singer. Band doesn't get enough of a chance to "get off!" Back in our day, you mentioned the band and the singer in the same breath--one "needed" the other. For instance--

Ray Barretto/Adalberto Santiago
Ricardo Ray/Bobby Cruz
Orquesta (Larry) Harlow/Ismael Miranda
Rafael Cortijo/Ismael Rivera
Eddie Palmieri/Ismael Quintana
Johnny Pacheco/Pete "El Conde" Rodriguez (y Celia, too!)
Tito Puente/Santos Colon (and don't forget La Lupe!)
Joe Cuba/Jimmy Sabater (also Willie Torres, Cheo)
and--my favorite pairing of 60s/early 70s Salsa--

WILLIE COLON/HECTOR LAVOE!!!!!!

Now, THAT was music!!!!

Charles

Diana 08-14-2001 01:02 PM

MUSIC
 
What could people possibly say?? We love OUR MUSIC.


The "Good Guys" (bet you don't rmember!): Joe O'Brien, "Dandy" Dan Daniel, Jack Spector, B. Mitchell Reid, Harry Harrison, Gary Stevens, Ed Baer, Dean Anthony, and a few others!

You bet I remember !!!! Do you remember Murray the K and Jocko? Going back a little here.

You listed all my favorite bands with their singers. Those were the days when you recognized a band by its style and singer. Today I can't tell whose who. I call it formula music.


Diana

Charles 08-19-2001 08:46 AM

Joe Cuba is "Harlem Week" finale--tonight!
 
Hey, here's a "heads up":

I just heard from a friend who is a sound engineer working the Harlem Week Festival on 135th St in (where else?) Harlem.

According to his information, Joe Cuba will be closing out the Festival tonight at the St. Nicholas Ave. end beginning at 7:30!!! Playing with Joe will be Yomo Toro and "Chocolate" (Alfredo Amanteros). Joe's due to play an hour, and from what I heard, he was cookin' last night too!!! He's still got it!!!!!

Now, I don't know if y'all "venture out of East Harlem and come 'uptown' to MY old neighborhood" (smile--I used to live on 135th), but it promises to be good!

Charles

GaryChandler 08-23-2001 10:26 AM

Hi all,

I'm a reporter from Columbia News Service (at Columbia University) and am doing stories in/about East Harlem. The forum has been a nice way for me to hear about some of the goings-on.

I'd love to learn more about TNT and Johnny Colon and others that have been mentioned here--sounds like a great story, and maybe one people outside of the community haven't heard much about, especially the younger folks. Johnny Colon is still around, right? Are any other musicians from before? What happened to them? Does East Harlem have a tradition of neighborhood bands? Is the idea of neighborhood bands still strong?

I'm a radio reporter, so anything that involves music makes my job easier! Thanks.

(P.S. Feel free to let me know about other things going on too--I'm open to just about everything.)

marthadel 11-17-2002 03:35 PM

LOOKING BACK
 
Glad to come back to this web site. Been gone away. I was reading the music replys on Tony Rojas and the TNT Band. I was glad to see someone did remember him. When I left NYC to live in Florida about 1974, I came back to East Harlem and saw Tony. He had finally settled down and if I remember well was living in East Harlem about 110th Street. I date Tony for about a year when he was playing the neighborhood clubs. Tony loved music and was talented. Does anyone know if he is playing again or really did settle down with a family?

Martha Del Valle
mvalle621@aol.com

marthadel 11-17-2002 03:37 PM

LOOKING BACK
 
Glad to come back to this web site. Been gone awhile. I was reading the music replys on Tony Rojas and the TNT Band. I was glad to see someone did remember him. When I left NYC to live in Florida about 1974, I came back to East Harlem and saw Tony. He had finally settled down and if I remember well was living in East Harlem about 110th Street. I date Tony for about a year when he was playing the neighborhood clubs. Tony loved music and was talented. Does anyone know if he is playing again or really did settle down with a family?

Martha Del Valle
mvalle621@aol.com

Ana 12-03-2002 01:03 PM

Lubona Corporation's International Salsa Sight
 
I just became a member to this site and ran across Richie Rumbero's gracious information/posting of the June 2001 Puerto Rican Village event at Riverside Church. Thank you, Richie! I am not sure if Richie knew this, but that event was put together (solely) by Mr. Jose Obando and Ms. Ana Flores, formerly of the Salsa Museum. It was successful, even through the inclement weather that day. We went on to pursue our goals, and now Mr. Jose Obando is the Salsa Consultant for the Metropolitan Museum's Instrumental Department. Presently, we are working on a CUATRO project, called "Cuatrisimo" for June 1, 2002, featuring six of the best Cuatro players. Of course, Yomo Toro accepted our request to perform for the Museum. Please visit our site at: www.intlsalsamuseum.homestead.com for information on Lubona Corporation/International Salsa Sight.

Ana 12-03-2002 01:05 PM

Correction
 
Correction! The date for the "Cuatrisimo" event at the Metropolitan Museum is June 1, 2003.

marthadel 12-04-2002 07:53 PM

Those Oldies But Goodies
 
Yes, I remember those radio stations when I was growing up. Murray the K and his swinging swaray! He always had the Ronnets on his show. And WMCA Good Guys. They were giving away sweat shirts with a big yellow smiling face on the front. All you had to do was sent them a post card with your address. Wish I would have saved that sweat shirt. And as for Richie Ray and Bobby Cruz. I live in Florida and they are here. They have been pastoring a church here for many years. They have a big ministry in Hialeah, FL.

Jibaro 12-04-2002 08:32 PM

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Paying his dues - before he became WBLS' "Chief Rocker" Program Director Frankie Crocker held his own, albeit "The fifth Beatle" was the main man on that station.






Ah Bey !

Diana 12-11-2002 10:34 AM

Jibaro,

Thanks for the picture - brought back many good memories of when I still lived on 111th St. looking out from my window and listening to Murray the K.

As for Frankie - he was the "Rocker" - "Frankie, don't go please stay".... remember that one and do you remember his theme song.... "There I go, There I go, There I go...pretty baby....
I believe it was called Moody's Blues.


Diana

calpp 02-26-2003 07:20 PM

Hello Diana and Charles I just joined the chat room on site and was literally blown away by your discussion on the great musicians and bands that existed during our day. I too was a musician during this period and played with a band called La Preferida. We rehearsed at the old warehouse site on 103st. between Park avenie and Lexington. I too listened to Dick Ricardo Sugar as well as the late great Symphony Sid and later on Joe Gaines. I found a web site titled La Musica.com which contained a three hour show headed by Joe Gaines. It is titled the Joe Gaines Express #45. It features the likes of Willie Colon, Eddie palmieri, Tito, Roberto Roena and the Apollo sound, The New Swing sextette, Johnny Colon, Joe Cuba, Joe Quijano to mention a few. I remember playing along side Mongo Santamaria at the amphitheater on 102st btwn Madison and Park Ave. I remember seeing Cal Tjader, Willi Bobo and Joe Quijano on the same stage. I also played along Mr. Gypsy Woman, Joe Batann. There is so much to write and not enough time to sit here and do it. I left N.Y.C. in 1971 for the military, traveled and settled down in Sacramento, Ca. in 1978. i still visit N.Y.C. at least 2 to 3 times a year if not more. Live 365 is also a websitte that features our music. Please keep in touch.


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