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Diana 07-24-2001 01:56 PM

Hi Charles,

Thanks for correcting my mistake. You are SO RIGHT about who sang Boogaloo Blues. TNT did Meditation. (God, I must be slipping - me a Barrio lady that all I did was listen to music...I'll just say that this little old brain has lost some cells.)

Anyhow, glad to hear that other folks like the same music I did and still do. ( I prefer it to today's music).

I remember when Willie Colon rehearsed at our CYO (in St. Cecilia's). The song he played was Jazzy. Remember that album? Do you remember Our Lady Queen of Angels dances? and the great bands that played there...Palmieri, Barreto, etc.
or the Jazzmobile?

And let's not forget the BLOCK PARTIES... I still think 111th St. between Mad. & Park had the best ones. (but, of course I would say that....that was my block.)

Does anyone remember the social groups that would always throw dances? I remember the Latin Ladies but the others I've forgotten (there goes those lost cells again.)

Looking forward to the discussion...I truly loved those times.

Diana 07-24-2001 02:33 PM

Marthadel,

How can you consider house parties part of the stone age years?
AAGH, I'm not that old!!!!! Actually, I prefer a good old house party to what people call dance clubs today. (people don't dance..too busy profiling). Most old timers that I know (myself included) are always about the dancing, the music, the fun and friends.

Jose 07-24-2001 09:35 PM

Boy I feel younger already. All us 70's kids had was disco!! But I must admit, you 'old timers'
had it good too, especially the music and friends part. (I was born in 55). Tell me more about what went on at these house parties. The ones my mother had were mostly held for weddings and engagement parties.

Charles 07-25-2001 12:29 AM

(Diana wrote: Anyhow, glad to hear that other folks like the same music I did and still do. [ I prefer it to today's music]. I remember when Willie Colon rehearsed at our CYO [in St. Cecilia's]. The song he played was Jazzy. Remember that album? Do you remember Our Lady Queen of Angels dances? and the great bands that played there...Palmieri, Barreto, etc. or the Jazzmobile?)


Hey, Diana!:

I, too, still play the Salsa of that day--A LOT!!!

The first album--of any genre (soul, pop, Latin, etc)--I ever purchased with my own money was Willie Colon's "El Malo," which led off with "Jazzy." I loved that album, and to this day I still play it on CD. I don't think the album/CD had a weak cut. Besides the aforementioned cut and the title tune, there was "Willie Baby," "Borinquen," "Willie Whopper," "Skinny Papa," "Chonqui," and "Quimbombo."

Now I have a little confession to make...at the time I began listening to Latin Music, I was 12! (1967--so yeah Jose, I'm the same age as you, bro--LOL!!!) Every night I used to listen to Dick "Ricardo" Sugar's show on WHBI-FM (105.9) and used to call in to make requests and dedications! So I used to be envious of people such as yourself who could go to the Bronx Music Palace, the La Calesa Club/"The Psycho Room," and the "3 & 1 Club." I was FAR too young to get into those places--LOL!!! I also used ot have an earphone to my transistor for Symphony Sid's show on WEVD-AM (1330) and WEVD-FM (97.9) (show was on simultaneously both stations)

So I had to get my Salsa where I could. The very first time I experienced it live was during the Summer of 1968, when Tony Lawrence and the City of New York (with help from actor Robert Hooks) put on the weekly "Harlem Cultural Festival" in Mt. Morris (now Marcus Garvey) Park. One week, the festival had Ray Barretto, Eddie Palmieri, and Tito Puente. I had to beg my older sister to take me (she was 18 at the time), 'cause moms wouldn't let me trek down there by myself.

One day soon Iíll post details about that show (I remember it vividly!)

Charles

Richie_Rumbero 07-25-2001 07:10 AM

Speaking of Johnny...
 
WASHINGTON SQUARE MUSIC FESTIVAL - SALSA CONCERT -Free, outdoors, in Washington Square Park, Greenwich Village, Manhattan. July 31st at 8:00PM.

Johnny Colon & His Orchestra. The dancing surface is cement, and there are benches and grass around the park. The concert is held at the southeast quadrant of the park, near Washington Square South (West 4th Street) and LaGuardia Place, just south of the fountain, near the statue of Garibaldi. Seating is on a first-come first-serve basis. In case of rain, the concert will be held in New York University's Frederick Loewe Theater, 35 West 4th Street (probably with no place for dancing). For more information, call 212-625-7123

Jibaro 07-26-2001 07:02 PM

Re: Tony Rojas and TNT
 
Quote:
Originally posted by Diana Lopez
Hi Jose,

Long time no speak. Just a little infor on the TNT Band. Their most popular song was Boogaloo Blues. It went something like this...I remember the time when I felt the world was mine...(chorus - LSD gotta hold on me...)

Does anyone remember this song?

As I had said before Jose I slept, ate, and was totally immersed in music from Latin to Soul, and Doowop and some rock and roll.


By the way the pet store you refer to on 109ths street is Petland.


I welcome more discussion on old latin songs. Does anyone remember the Swing Sextette and Joey Pastrana?


I do remeber The TNT Band. I do not, however, remeber their hits even when looking at the Titles " Borinqen Bella,"
" Mi Mulatta," and "Descarga TNT." I do recall and can veriy this by ownership that Johnny Colon recorded Boogaloo Blues.

Jibaro 08-02-2001 11:48 AM

Re: I Remember Those Days
 
Quote:
Originally posted by marthadel
I remember those house parties very well. I had my wedding in our apartment in the Wagner projects. It was in August with no AC You can imagine all those people in an apartment on a hot summer day. I remember also my friends in school talking about someone have a dance in their apartment. I think they called it going to a Set or something like that. I never went to any of those dances since I wasnt allowed to go out but, I remember everone talking about it the next day.

Those were the days before computers. How did we ever survive without computers?
Not sure why the house paries were called "Sets," but it may have been to distinguish them from a "House party" that were more family oriented - tios, tias, cousins, abuela, mom and pop. Sets were also "Thrown" (yet another term) in apartments that house parties were given with the distiction or a virtual absence of aforementioned family members.

If someone helps me, I still have some invitations to sets and Social Club "Dances" that I can share by uploading some of them to this board.

Jibaro 08-02-2001 11:51 AM

Re: I Remember Those Days
 
Quote:
Originally posted by marthadel
I remember those house parties very well. I had my wedding in our apartment in the Wagner projects. It was in August with no AC You can imagine all those people in an apartment on a hot summer day. I remember also my friends in school talking about someone have a dance in their apartment. I think they called it going to a Set or something like that. I never went to any of those dances since I wasnt allowed to go out but, I remember everone talking about it the next day.

Those were the days before computers. How did we ever survive without computers?
Not sure why the house paries were called "Sets," but it may have been to distinguish them from a "House party" that were more family oriented - tios, tias, cousins, abuela, mom and pop, etc. Sets were also "Thrown" (yet another term) in apartments that house parties were given with the distinction or a virtual absence of aforementioned family members.

If someone helps me, I still have some invitations to sets and Social Club "Dances" that I can share by uploading some of them to this board.

Jibaro 08-02-2001 11:55 AM

Re: I Remember Those Days
 
Quote:
Originally posted by marthadel
I remember those house parties very well. I had my wedding in our apartment in the Wagner projects. It was in August with no AC You can imagine all those people in an apartment on a hot summer day. I remember also my friends in school talking about someone have a dance in their apartment. I think they called it going to a Set or something like that. I never went to any of those dances since I wasnt allowed to go out but, I remember everone talking about it the next day.

Those were the days before computers. How did we ever survive without computers?
Not sure why the house paries were called "Sets," but it may have been to distinguish them from a "House party" that were more family oriented - tios, tias, cousins, abuela, mom and pop, etc. Sets were also "Thrown" (yet another term) in apartments that house parties were given with the distinction, or a virtual absence of aforementioned family members.

If someone helps me, I still have some invitations to sets and Social Club "Dances" that I can share by uploading some of them to this board.

Richie_Rumbero 08-02-2001 07:58 PM

Hey Jibaro,

If Jose can turn on the HTML Code on this message board you can share with us all the photos by using this HTML Code...

<br><span class="sig"></span><img src="[web address where photo is scanned]"><br>

or simply go to one of the many web-photo albums on the internet, upload your pics there and give us the link to the address where we could see them.....

Thanks.

Richie

Jibaro 08-02-2001 11:16 PM

Richie, I was hoping and continue to do so and wishing, not to mention encoraging Jose to make html codes available HERE, so as to not to go elsewhere for what can be handled here - Latino style. The EHO board has a good premise and great potential, so I remain optimistic that Jose will continue improving this board.

P. S.

Jose, let me know if there is ANYTHING I can do to help you out.

Jose 08-03-2001 08:52 AM

Richie, Jibaro,
I am not sure what it is you wish to do. My guess is that you wish pictures to show up as a message thread opens up.
I will try it now:
http://www.east-harlem.com/images/gwf_trex.jpg

It didn't work. I will work on this as I believe it should allow you to show the message. I may be doing something wrong. But as above, you can put the url and it will create a link to the picture. Is that what you wish to do?

Diana 08-03-2001 09:26 AM

HOUSE PARTIES
 
Hey Jose,

I'm only 2 yrs. older than you...but you write that all we had was 70"s disco...Jose, where have you been, my friend?

We had more than that...60's motown and latin music, as well as rock, and of course, the 70's disco and for those that like Doo Wop (like I do, we also had those classics).

House parties were exactly that PARTIES...family and friends. Now SETS were something else. I wasn't old enough to go to one of these, however, I did get a taste of it. My teenage babysitter threw one and she invited me - just to show off the latest dances she had taught me...and then I was banished from the party. I did notice that there were red and green lights. stuff to snack on and great music. She did tell me what went on at these SETS. Lot's of dancing especially SLOW dancing (like the grind, the elevator, etc.) these dances usually took place up against some wall. And of course there was ALWAYS a chaperone.

I never made it to one of these SETS just like I never made it to the Palladium....but they sure sounded like great times...but, I have the music.

Jose 08-03-2001 09:41 AM

Diana,
I have to confess, I didn't go out too much in the 70s. I wasn't a party kid. Didn't see the point in dancing, like what does it accomplish? Now I dance to please my wife, but still don't get why people like it. I don't get anything out of it. Would much rather play the drums, hey, but that's just me, a little nerdy.

But you are right about Motown, etc. My sisters listened to Motown Music Exclusively and my parents to Latin. I stuck to Rock - The Beatles, Rolling Stones, etc. I never saw Tito Puente play regular Drums like Ringo, so I didn't go there. Again, its just me. I do enjoy Salsa now, especially the horn sections.

I just hope Salseros use regular drums in the future.

Diana 08-08-2001 09:03 PM

MUSIC AND DANCING
 
Jose,

I just had to answer this one. You say you don't see the point to dancing. What do you get out of playing drums? It's probably the same "thing" dancers get out of dancing. It's good for the soul, for the spirit, makes one happy.

Tito Puente did not play drums but he played timbales, vibes, piano, etc.

Latin music (or Salsa) has instruments that are essential to its groove. Percussion instruments; congas, bongo, campana, timbales, give it the rhythm. Makes it swing. It's not an easy feat for these percussionists to keep time and the flow not only for the rest of the musicians but for the dancers also.

Drums have been infused into Latin but there is usually a conga around somewhere. Cuban music has done it. Irakere (more jazzy) Los Van Van but you always have the percussion.

In my opinion a guaguanco, chacha or rumba to trap drums...would NEVER sound the same or give it the same groove, flow or feel.

I liked the Beatles, but Jose...Ringo Starr?

so, I ask you again...What do YOU get out of playing drums????


Interested in seeing your reply.


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