Why is this forum empty

[Jose]

On April 21, 2001 Muaddib wrote:

Hey,
Why is this forum empty?
So much is going on politically in El Barrio (Spanish Harlem).

I guess I will start it off.
Should we vote for Phil Reed (West Sider) or a local
community activist, Mr. Felipe Luciano! I am going to
vote for Mr. Luciano. First of all, he is more representative
of the local community. Secondly, he is Hispanic, Puerto Rican
to be exact. Thirdly, he is not aloof. What do you think
gang?

I replied:

Muaddib,
You may have set your message dates to view last 10 days.
Go to your control panel and change it to whatever you like.
The message thread before this one was over 10 days ago and
that is why you did not see it.

Jose

Diana Lopez replied:


MUADDIB,

Before I reply What do you know of Felipe Luciano?

I replied:
Diana,
I don't know as much as I'd like to know.
He was a Young Lord in the 70's.
He became a TV Journalist and still is.
I have heard other things about temperment, but
that is about it. I get into my activism too, so
I don't blame Felipe for having a temper now and then when
it comes to causes he believes in.

What do you know about Felipe?
Jose

Diana Lopez replied:


TEMPER???? Oh, I most definitely have one....

Yes, Felipe was a Young Lord...but, as told to me by other Lord members he doesn't not tell the story straight when it comes to the history of the Young Lord's Movement. That's why former Lord members are rather distant from him.

The others see him as a sell out...especially when he was with Ninfa Segarra (once Guilliani's Deputy Mayor, former political activist-independentista and now presently the Board of Ed's president.)

True, he's been with Fox 5 on and off and I hear it's because of serious reasons that he's away for a while.

I saw him once at a function - he was the M.C. and it left me with a bad taste..he made lewd remarks about Latina women and many women in the conference objected to it.

He is also involved in the Latino Musicians movement that I wrote about before.

I tend to agree with him on some of the issues concerning this movement.. I often have wondered why the so called activists from that era have not held true to the principles, convictions and beliefs that brought a whole group of people (namely Puerto Ricans) toegether.

Your thoughts...? ? ? ?

I replied:

Diana,
I guess we have heard about Felipe's statements and atitude
at the same event. Then it could have been another event.
From what I hear, he was at an event, and spoke more like
a street person (he got street) at an event where a lot of
upper class people were in the audience, thereby not endearing
himself to them. According to the account I heard, he really
let loose. Because of this, I am not sure about what to
make of him.

I did get to speak to him briefly at a recent local event, but
it was a very quick exchange. I hope to call him soon, if
East Harlem Online decides to host/sponsor the 2001 East Harlem
8th Councilmanic Candidates Debate (September).

Mee Ling (from Community School Board #4 called me recently)
and she is interested in running too. Do you know Mee Ling?

[carmen quinones]

Originally posted by Jose
On April 21, 2001 Muaddib wrote:



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[carmen quinones]

we must be very careful about who we support. Just because they are puerto Rican is not enough anymore. what have they done for EastHarlem is the question. And I love my puerto Rican people but we have to think of the community and not our selfish agendas. So many times we support people that sound good and still do nothing once they are in. We must restore the faith in the political process back to our commuinty. Our people have lost faith. Thats the first order of business as far as I'm concern.











Love, Peace, freedom, Justice, fearness and the right to a community free of people getting a free ride on the backs of the people and children in our commuinty has to stop.

[Antonio Rivera]

I am not for Felipe Luiciano. I think as a person he may be a fine human bieng, I don't know. But I vehimently disagree with his polictics. Felipe is too left wing for my taste.
Left wing people usually like to decide how to spend your money. Money that is the product of my labor. If someone wants me to share my money I would appreciate it if they also shared in my labor. Felipe blames everyone but those responsible for their fate. True there are situations where the greater system makes it difficult for some to be less than optimal but I believe thsoe situations are rare.
Excuse me for blaming the "victim" but either we are all victims or non are victims. After all is not the person running the system also a victim? Is not the rich capitalist also a victim, where is the understanding for them? Do you not exhibit prejudicial reasoning when you favor one group over another, in this case the "poor" over the "rich"? The underclass over the well off? If we don't truly care for all we run the risk of starting a cultural and economic war. THis war may change the particulars but will retain the general (one group over the other).
I say lets work toward true help and reconciliation among all. I don't believe in a classless society because everyone strives towards different goals at different rates and we have to allow for some to do as they wish which may be nothing, but so be it. But we can strive to give all an equal opportunity (not a garautee that they will succeed, that up to them) and respect.
Antonio Rivera

[Jose]

Whew!!
That was intense. Thanks for replying. I do have a question, is there anyone who is currently running who you do support?

[muaddib]

Yes that was an intense reply. Good for you Tony. You raise some pretty good questions. Just what do we know about Mr. Luciano and his motives for running? Isn't he known as being a hot head?

Just why does he wish to run at this point? Does anyone know? Has anyone seen him in our community lately, besides fund raisers?